What is the narratology/ludology debate

For the narratology/ludology debate,here is somthing i found

The narratological view is that games should be understood as novel forms of narrative and can thus be studied using theories of narrative

. The ludological position is that games should be understood on their own terms. Ludologists have proposed that the study of games should concern the analysis of the abstract and formal systems they describe. In other words, the focus of game stud
ies should be on the rules of a game, not on the representational elements which are only incidental

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